i saw it, but morallity is allways interesting. I think it is looser than laws because morailty has to change before a law will

Sayf: We saw, but that doesn't mean we have to stop the debate does it?

And Steve, you already said you loved me

Steve wrote:i saw it, but morallity is allways interesting. I think it is looser than laws because morailty has to change before a law will

Morallity never changes. Morallity is another word for nature. It is just silly huamns who like to tamper with it by making "laws".

Morallity is supposed to set the laws.

no morality changes and then the law changes, morality changes easier and faster because laws involve a lot of paper work and planning.

i gave an example with slavery but here's another, Women couldn't vote, it was thought they shouldn't be involved with important decisions and now we try to treat them as equals.

Steve wrote:no morality changes and then the law changes, morality changes easier and faster because laws involve a lot of paper work and planning.

i gave an example with slavery but here's another, Women couldn't vote, it was thought they shouldn't be involved with important decisions and now we try to treat them as equals.

Stealing and killing was against the moral code of Mesopotamia under Hammurabi's code. They are still against the moral code today.

I disagree, it depends on where you look at. In some societies women were treated as equals when in other societies they were not treated as so.

yes killing will almost always be illegal, but in this country the death penalty was abolished because people thought it was wrong.

Steve wrote:yes killing will almost always be illegal, but in this country the death penalty was abolished because people thought it was wrong.

Question: Why is killing always illegal?

Answer: Morallity says so.

yeah thats what i was saying too ahmed morality controls laws and the laws (should) change when morals do, and they do change.

And I said before that huamns attempt, in fail, to change the laws set by nature.

@ the notion of morality "changing" .. perhaps advancing but not changing ..

A sense of some sort of moral standings always exist in any particular society at any particular time...but its form may be different according to the culture and tradition of the society...

morality is the last lingering tidbits of humans instincts. before longs we will live in a world governed completely by the law of majority and not a world of morals

preid1220 wrote:morality is the last lingering tidbits of humans instincts. before longs we will live in a world governed completely by the law of majority and not a world of morals

I think you are 400 years late...in saying that sentence.

Ahmed that bases of society today still has a strong moral focal but majority is starting to take stage.

You, old sport, and I have huge differences on how we define morality